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31  Entertainment / Bollywood/Movies / Re: Indian Jewish bollywood stars on: October 14, 2007, 01:40:01 PM
Update sent by Nissim Moses:

32  Announcements / Events / First Hindu-Jewish Summit on: October 13, 2007, 10:46:42 AM
Memorandum of Understanding signed at the First Hindu-Jewish Summit Held in New Delhi, in Feb 2007.

Participants in The First Jewish/Hindu Summit in New Delhi (program below):

Submitted by Nissim Moses.
33  Entertainment / Music / Prayer Songs - Bene Israel Style on: September 28, 2007, 12:35:09 PM
Press the PLAY button on the top left to hear the music. Excellently done by a professional band and a great singer.

Lecha Dodi - לכה דודי

Deror Yikra - דרור יקרא

Yigdal Elohim Chai - יגדל אלהים חי

Yisrael Avadecha - ישראל עבדיך

Shir Chadash Ashir - שיר חדש אשיר

Yodocha Ra'ayona - יודוך רעיוני

Yom Ha'Shabat Ein Ka'muho - יום השבת אין כמוהו

El Eliyahoo - אל אליהו

El Nora Alila - אל נורא עלילה

Ki Aishmere Ha'Shabat - כי אשמרה שבת

Yehea Shalom Bechilyno - יהי שלום בחילנו

Yonati Ziv Yifatech - יונתי זיו יפעתך

צלילי ראג" הינה להקת פולקלור הודית-אותנטית, המופיעה על הבמה"
מזה 18 שנה. להקת "צלילי ראג, חושפת בפני הקהל את המיטב שבמוסיקה
ההודית האותנטית בנגינה בכלים מקוריים ובשירה הודית.
המופע מלווה בהסבר מילולי ובקטעי סרט על המסורת והמוסיקה של הקהילה ההודית
הלהקה פועלת בחסות המתנ"ס בירוחם אשר שם דגש לעודד יוזמות בתחום זה.
הלהקה הוציאה עד כה שתי קלטות ודיסק קלאסי.

חברי הלהקה הינם בני משפחה אשר עיסוק המוסיקה עובר מדור לדור

חברי הלהקה:
גדעון טלקר-פייטן,שירה
עופר טלקר - בולבולטרה
יגאל דן-טבלה,כלי הקשה
אלעד טלקר-ארמוניום
אהרון טלקר-פעמונים
34  News / In The News / Indian Jews find promised land here on: September 21, 2007, 01:57:14 PM
Link sent to me by Raymond:

My opinion is that as with most people who immigrate to a new country, this transition can be very difficult. I spent my childhood and teen years in Israel. Therefore, growing up there wasn't as challenging. But I know, people like my parents who moved to Israel in their 30's found it challenging. And I think the description in the article is fairly accurate.

There is one relatively big error made by the author:
"And as a global debate rages over whether Indian Jews even qualify as Jews..."

There is no "global debate" of such kind. It was true at the time of the creation of Israel. Bene Israel received full recognition in 1964. Granted it's unfortunate that such discrimination existed, but there is no debate about this globally.

Recently the Bnei Menashe had issues (and I think still do) with making Aliyah to Israel. But if the author is referring to the Bnei Menashe, then such distinction should be mentioned and should have not used the all inclusive term "Indian-Jews" (as it includes all 4 groups).

35  Our Community / Socialize / Re: coming to india on: September 21, 2007, 01:41:00 PM
In Mumbai (Bombay) you can find the Bene Israel community quite easily. In Cochin it will be a bit harder since the community has only a handful of families still remaining. You may want to contact the synangogues in Mumbai for more information on this. The Pardesi synagogue in Cochin is a must see. I've only seen it in photos and it looks great.
36  History and Geneology / Our Roots / Re: Indian-Jewish Cemeteries in India on: September 19, 2007, 01:43:28 PM
I didn't take these photos. You may want to contact the author to get additional information. I'm sure there's a list of cemeteries in India. I've forwarded your e-mail from yesterday to Romiel. I'm sure he'll be able to provide you with help or direct you to the right people.
37  History and Geneology / Our Roots / Re: What is your personal story making Aliya to Israel? on: September 19, 2007, 01:36:58 PM

I've posted this message originally out of my own interest. I'm a Bene Israel myself and curious about this topic since it's part of my heritage. I know that Bene Israel weren't formally recognized as Jews by the Israeli government until 1964 after much struggle. So this is a period of time that is very interesting in recent BI history.
38  Religion / Prayer Books / Re: re:tanslation of "yonati ziv" in english on: August 11, 2007, 11:05:28 PM
YONATI ZIV YIFATEKh - My dove, your beauty shines forth
Nava Mi Kol Alamot - Prettiest of all Maidens
39  Religion / Indian-Jewish Customs / Re: Indian Jewish Wedding on: July 17, 2007, 09:13:34 PM
Last month the Indian-Jewish Congreation of USA participated in the Great Jewish Wedding event at the UJA of NNJ. You can check out the photos from the event (plus a short clip of Yonati Ziv that Evelina mentioned) at the below link:

Also, the bride can wear a sari-styled wedding gown. This organization's president can certainly help guide you if you want to.
40  Announcements / Events / Maharashtra Mandal Marathi Drama - Udgar on: June 28, 2007, 08:32:05 AM
All Members and friends of the Indian Jewish Congregation of USA:

We have approached the Maharashtra Mandal in New York who is staging this wonderful Marathi drama – UDGAR. If we go as a group of 20 or more, then later on the Maharashtra Mandal may give us a discount of 10%. At present the tickets are $25 and $ 50.

Possibly we could all opt for the $50 ticket. However if there is anybody who wishes to purchase the $25 ticket, that is also possible. Pl send in your reservation by July 2nd. 2007 with the checks made out to:

The Indian Jewish Congregation of USA. 

It is absolutely essential to make reservations by this time as otherwise the good seats would be sold out.

Date: July 15th 2007

Time: 2:30 p.m.

Venue: Queens Theatre in the Park
            Flushing Meadows. Corona Park
            Flushing, NY 11368.

Ticket Price: $50 and $25

We have been informed that parking is available.

Please contact the following for more information if required.

Romiel Daniel              718-897-8718

Lael Daniel                  516-735-2162
41  Announcements / Events / American Sephardi Federation Presents - The Cochin Jews of India on: May 10, 2007, 12:44:56 AM
Filmmaker Johanna Spector explores the religious, cultural and economic life of the Cochini Jews in their native India while following the younger generation in their new life in Israel.

Thursday, June 7 2007 at 2:00PM
$5 Non-Members

See below URL for more information:
42  Entertainment / Music / Re: Hebrew / Hindi Song on: May 08, 2007, 10:38:17 PM
Here's another song in Hebrew sung by an Ethiopian artist with sampling from a Hindi song:
43  News / In The News / Jerusalem Post Article - Rabbi rejects Bene Israel as Jews on: February 08, 2007, 11:01:00 PM
Sent to me via e-mail:
Sep. 1, 2005 22:08  | Updated Sep. 2, 2005 17:48

Oshrit and Ofer Dokarker were married on July 7, but before they tied the
knot they discovered not everyone in the Israeli rabbinical establishment
considered them Jews.
Forty years after Bene Israel, members of an ancient Indian Jewish
community, staged a sit-down strike to demand - and finally receive -
Israeli rabbinate recognition of their Jewish status, members today continue
to be rejected by Petah Tikva Chief Rabbi Shimon Solomon.
"Everything started off all right," recalled Oshrit. "Ofer lives in Petah
Tikva, where there is a fairly large Bene Israel community with their own
synagogue. So he applied to the religious council in his hometown for a
document proving he was unmarried and Jewish.
"The clerk at the religious council told Ofer that the document would be
sent in the mail within two weeks." However, the letter never came, and
instead the couple had to deal with the problem of proving Ofer was indeed
"Rabbi Haim Roth, head of the marriage registrar in Petah Tikva, asked Ofer
to come down to his office. He sent him to Rabbi Azariah Bassis, chief rabbi
of Rosh Ha'ayin to have the document signed."
Ofer asked Roth why he was sent over to Rosh Ha'ayin, but he was evasive.
Ofer asked, "Is it because I am Bene Israel?" Roth response was a simple
"maybe." Two days later Roth arranged to have the document signed by Bassis.
Ofer and Oshrit turned to the Israel Religious Action Center (IRAC), the
legal arm of the Reform Movement in Israel, to file a complaint.
In a letter sent to Solomon and Roth the IRAC demanded a payment of NIS
50,000 for damages caused as a result of the disparaging, discriminatory
treatment suffered by the Dokarkers while they were trying to get married.
The IRAC also argued that each religious council is obligated to the
principle of equality in their services.
"It is unacceptable that on the basis of racial discrimination the religious
council in Petah Tikva sends its residents to receive religious services at
councils outside Petah Tikva."
However, Noah Massil, honorary president of the Central Organization of
Indian Jews in Israel, said he does not plan to fight Solomon.
"All across the nation the Bene Israel are always accepted as Jews," said
"The only person that makes trouble is this Solomon fellow. I personally
believe Solomon has something against Bene Israel.
"If he felt, halachically speaking, Bene Israel are not Jews he would object
to rabbinic recognition of any Bene Israel marriage, whether in Petah Tikva
or in Rosh Ha'ayin or anywhere else."
Rabbi Ratzon Arussi, chairman of the Chief Rabbinate's Marital Council,
insisted that chief rabbis of cities and towns should be given the freedom
and autonomy to make their own halachic decisions.
"The rabbinate cannot force rabbis to issue decisions against their
conscience," said Arussi.
However, Arussi argued that the rabbis should provide all citizens with
equality when it comes to religious services.
Bassis told The Jerusalem Post that for the past five years he has agreed to
help Bene Israel living in Petah Tikva and signed the documents for Bene
Israel marriages.
"Chief Rabbi Bakshi Doron asked me to help in Petah Tikva. Why should I be
the one who does it? I do not want to be the one to decide in that halachic
dispute," Bassis said.
His comments refer to the dissent between haredi Ashkenazi halachic
authorities and rabbis who accept the decision of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and
Rabbi Shlomo Goren, who recognized Bene Israel as Jews.
According to Dr. Shalva Weil, an anthropologist at Hebrew University, Ovadia
and Goren based their historic decision on information she helped provide.
"I pointed out that Bene Israel prohibited divorce and they also prohibited
widow remarriage...
Therefore, there was no danger that a married woman would give birth by a
man who is not her husband and there were also no problems with levirate
Massil said there are 60,000 Bene Israel living in Israel. They first
arrived in the 1950s. The Bene Israel observed Shabbat, circumcision of
their sons on the eighth day after birth, biblical prohibitions against
eating fish without scales and many Jewish festivals, which they refer to by
Indian names.
44  History and Geneology / Our Roots / The Bene Israel and the Baghdadis: two Indian Jewish communities in conflict on: January 18, 2007, 12:04:50 PM
The below attached article was originally found at the below URL:
45  Religion / Prayer Books / Holy Books—Translated and Transliterated on: January 18, 2007, 12:19:42 AM
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